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Wenda20121005 21:11
台長駁斥將“動物生命”和“植物生命”混為一談的謬論
女聽眾：我一直吃素，家裡人對我蠻有看法的，因為我們結婚，想生小孩子，家裡人說一直吃素的話，肯定對生孩子不利的。
台長答：誰說的，吃素的人生孩子比吃葷的人還快呢。你叫他去問醫生，都是醫生說的，鹼性體質生兒子，酸性體質生女兒
（我就跟他們講這個道理，吃葷的會殘害生命什麼，他們跟我說植物也是有生命的）
對啊，我告訴你啊，因為植物有生命，所以我們就可以吃有生命的動物了？哪有這種道理的？有生命的東西有五蘊的，植物屬於五蘊之外，不一樣的
台長駁斥將“動物生命”和“植物生命”混為一談的謬論
女聽眾：我一直吃素，家裡人對我蠻有看法的，因為我們結婚，想生小孩子，家裡人說一直吃素的話，肯定對生孩子不利的。
台長答：誰說的，吃素的人生孩子比吃葷的人還快呢。你叫他去問醫生，都是醫生說的，鹼性體質生兒子，酸性體質生女兒
（我就跟他們講這個道理，吃葷的會殘害生命什麼，他們跟我說植物也是有生命的）
對啊，我告訴你啊，因為植物有生命，所以我們就可以吃有生命的動物了？哪有這種道理的？有生命的東西有五蘊的，植物屬於五蘊之外，不一樣的
（對啊，我還不夠開智慧，所以總說服不了他們）
說服不了就不要說，家裡有這些人就是你有孽障
（對啊，我就需要多多念經）
我告訴你等於家裡有一個人不講道理的，你說你家裡會好嗎？
（平時還是講道理的，但是一說到學佛念經這件事情就有一點……）
我告訴你等於家裡有一個人不講道理的，你說你家裡會好嗎？
（平時還是講道理的，但是一說到學佛念經這件事情就有一點……）
緣分不夠，你就先不要去度他們。你說宗教信仰自由，我願意吃素，健康
（我自己默默給他們念經，一直唸下去，直到他們緣分到了）
哎呦，這種話台長聽了太多了“哎呀，植物也有生命”，就是因為植物有生命，也可以吃，那麼你就可以吃活的生命了，對不對啊，他不就這個理論嘛？你說這種理論存在不存在啊？
（那肯定不對了）
（我自己默默給他們念經，一直唸下去，直到他們緣分到了）
哎呦，這種話台長聽了太多了“哎呀，植物也有生命”，就是因為植物有生命，也可以吃，那麼你就可以吃活的生命了，對不對啊，他不就這個理論嘛？你說這種理論存在不存在啊？
（那肯定不對了）
你說螞蟻也有生命，如果螞蟻可以打死的話，那麼人也可以打死啊？什麼理論真是！你要跟他好好講，不開悟的話，你就天天給他念經，以後慢慢跟他講，怕他造口業
（對，我也是怕他造口業，所以我就不太經常跟他提）
（對，我也是怕他造口業，所以我就不太經常跟他提）
因為你不能說服他們，我告訴你，這就是業障。你看人家一家家學佛，一家家善良
（對）
你要跟他好好講，你說植物的生命體是非常微小的，不能因為這個世界上植物有生命體，所以就能吃肉，就可以去殺害大生物，這種理論根本不能通行的。
（對）
你要跟他好好講，你說植物的生命體是非常微小的，不能因為這個世界上植物有生命體，所以就能吃肉，就可以去殺害大生物，這種理論根本不能通行的。
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wenda20121005 21:11
Refute the arguement of lumping the concepts of animla and plant life together
Caller: I’m a vegetarian but my family members have some opinions on this. My husband and I want to have kids, but my family think if I persist in being a vegetarian it will be unfavourable for pregnancy.
Master Lu: Who told you that? Vegetarians can get pregnant more easily than meat-eaters. You can tell them to ask a doctor. Doctors say that bodies under alkaline conditions tend to have sons, while bodies under acidic conditions are more likely to have daughters.
Caller: I told them about the saying, that consuming meat is killing lives, but they said that plants are also alive.
Master Lu: Yes, but since plants are alive, does that allow us to eat animals, which are also living beings? Why is there this kind of expression? Things that live belong to the Five Aggregates and plants are excluded from that; they are different.
Caller: Yes, I’m still not wise enough, so that’s why I can’t persuade them.
Master Lu: If you cannot persuade, then do not say it. Having these people in the family is your karmic obstacle.
Caller: Yes, that’s why I need to perform recitations more.
Master Lu: It’s like having a person in the family who are not acting reasonably. Would that be a harmonious family?
Caller: They would normally act reasonably, but when it comes to practising Buddhism the situation would be quite...
Master Lu: The conditions have not yet matured, so do not introduce Buddhism to them first. Just tell them that because of your freedom of religious belief, you wish to be a vegetarian, and that it is healthy.
Caller: I have performed recitations for them in secret and will continue doing so until their conditions have matured.
Master Lu: I have heard this kind of argument so many times: ‘Oh, plants are also alive’. Since plants are alive, you can also eat animals. Is this right? Isn’t this that person’s own theory? Do you think this kind of theory is right?
Caller: That is definitely wrong.
Master Lu: You say that ants are also lives. If one can kill an ant, isn’t it also fine to kill a person? What kind of a statement is that? You have to talk to him properly. If he still doesn’t understand it, perform recitations for him every day, and gradually speak to him at a later time in case he commits the karma of speech.
Caller: Yes, I’m also afraid that he might commit the karma of speech, so that’s why I do not always talk to him about this.
Master Lu: This is because you cannot persuade them. I’m telling you, this is karmic obstacle. In many cases, the whole family is practising Buddhism and all family members are very kind.
Caller: Yes.
Master Lu: You must talk to him properly and explain that the life of a plant is very small. We cannot go and eat meat and kill large living beings just because plants are also living organisms; this kind of argument doesn’t hold water.
Refute the arguement of lumping the concepts of animla and plant life together
Caller: I’m a vegetarian but my family members have some opinions on this. My husband and I want to have kids, but my family think if I persist in being a vegetarian it will be unfavourable for pregnancy.
Master Lu: Who told you that? Vegetarians can get pregnant more easily than meat-eaters. You can tell them to ask a doctor. Doctors say that bodies under alkaline conditions tend to have sons, while bodies under acidic conditions are more likely to have daughters.
Caller: I told them about the saying, that consuming meat is killing lives, but they said that plants are also alive.
Master Lu: Yes, but since plants are alive, does that allow us to eat animals, which are also living beings? Why is there this kind of expression? Things that live belong to the Five Aggregates and plants are excluded from that; they are different.
Caller: Yes, I’m still not wise enough, so that’s why I can’t persuade them.
Master Lu: If you cannot persuade, then do not say it. Having these people in the family is your karmic obstacle.
Caller: Yes, that’s why I need to perform recitations more.
Master Lu: It’s like having a person in the family who are not acting reasonably. Would that be a harmonious family?
Caller: They would normally act reasonably, but when it comes to practising Buddhism the situation would be quite...
Master Lu: The conditions have not yet matured, so do not introduce Buddhism to them first. Just tell them that because of your freedom of religious belief, you wish to be a vegetarian, and that it is healthy.
Caller: I have performed recitations for them in secret and will continue doing so until their conditions have matured.
Master Lu: I have heard this kind of argument so many times: ‘Oh, plants are also alive’. Since plants are alive, you can also eat animals. Is this right? Isn’t this that person’s own theory? Do you think this kind of theory is right?
Caller: That is definitely wrong.
Master Lu: You say that ants are also lives. If one can kill an ant, isn’t it also fine to kill a person? What kind of a statement is that? You have to talk to him properly. If he still doesn’t understand it, perform recitations for him every day, and gradually speak to him at a later time in case he commits the karma of speech.
Caller: Yes, I’m also afraid that he might commit the karma of speech, so that’s why I do not always talk to him about this.
Master Lu: This is because you cannot persuade them. I’m telling you, this is karmic obstacle. In many cases, the whole family is practising Buddhism and all family members are very kind.
Caller: Yes.
Master Lu: You must talk to him properly and explain that the life of a plant is very small. We cannot go and eat meat and kill large living beings just because plants are also living organisms; this kind of argument doesn’t hold water.
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